May. 31st, 2007

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Aaand, to cheer us all up... some Sparrington art! I'm tired of following all the wank and it's making my head explode, so I'm posting this then will probably lose myself in some nice porn (maybe INCESTUOUS UNDERAGE porn, snerk) then go to bed. Cause seriously. Sigh. I really don't have much more coherent to say about it, and many others have said it better. Certainly there are several sides to this and a number of issues to be taken into consideration, and it would be nice if LJ posted a proper statement about it. I'm not even sure who to blame anymore; ultimately I think the blame lies in part with WFI and in part with LJ Abuse. I get where LJ was coming from, to some extent, but it makes no sense that they went back on what they'd said in the past, essentially violated their own TOS, and gave in to the pressures of one vigilante group. Because THAT won't set a precedent... Plus, they're ultimately going to lose money since a lot of fans are ditching their paid accounts. Don't really know if it will make much difference in the long run (drop in the bucket of 13 million users...) but it's something, I suppose.

Anyway, right. Sparrington art. All G rated, though god knows I'm tempted to go draw some porn... maybe Wincesty porn, just out of principle. :)

Under the cut... )

G'night ya'll. Maybe things will have calmed down in the morning... (also - [livejournal.com profile] fandom_counts is over 20,000 now! Woo hoo!)
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http://news.livejournal.com/

Well, it's over... yeah, old news now, I know, but I was lazy today and didn't get around to posting about it until now... I'm of two minds about the apology, but at least they did apologize and are now restoring the innocent journals ([livejournal.com profile] pornish_pixies is back up, as are several more). Here's a copy-paste of a comment I made in [livejournal.com profile] tsukishirou's journal that sums up my thoughts on the apology, with a few minor edits:

<i>I'm glad they're finally respdoning to the situation, though I'm not overly satisfied with their apology. I'm glad that they apologized to the communities that got accidentally deleted and are now taking action to restore those comms, but they didn't address a number of the problems fans have had. Such as, why did it take them so long to make a statement to the fans yet they made several statements to the press? And why did they not delete the pedophile communities that were reported to them monthes ago, claiming that they could not do anything about it? And what, exactly, do they mean when they say that communities about underage sex/incest must be clearly opposeod to those? Do they mean just a comment in the profile that they don't support those in real life, or do they mean that all the discussion/fic must be actively against those while still writing about them...? It's quite vague.

I'm glad they're admitting they messed up, anyway. Though their claims that they did what they did not purely because of outside pressure but because the comms violated their TOS is a bit hard to take considering their earlier actions (re: not deleting reported pedo comms in the past). What was it about WFI that made them take action this time? Was it purely economic concerns, since WFI went after the advertisers? Or were they covering their legal asses, in spite of the fact that I believe the law states that they would not be held accountable for content in journals on their website?

Anyway, I hope they can somehow report the real pedophiles from the real comms to the police... so maybe something real and productive could have come out of all of this. Though I imagine that they really just pushed them farther underground...</i>

So yeah, it's basically over now, I suppose. We'll see how things go in the future... drama aside, though, it did bring fandom together and there was lots of good discussion and legitimate anger. And some fun creative stuff came out of it, too (there's even a fanmix now!). Hell, it even had a THEME SONG. How many wanks have ever had a theme song...? The whole Pirates thing was a bit silly, perhaps, but hell, lots of us are all hyped up on Pirates 3 right now and the song did fit so it was suiting that it was used a rallying cry. "Hoist the colours high", yo ho. :)

Anyway, some Firefly-themed icons to commemorate the event, inspired by the "We Aim to Misbehave" icon that I'm using (made by [livejournal.com profile] _stolendreams_. Because fitting though the Pirates thing was, I think some of the classic Firefly quotes/phrases also fits quite well. :) May make more if the mood strikes...

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Base made by [livejournal.com profile] originality. Please comment/credit if you take. Thanks! :)

One last thing - if anyone hasn't read this post, I suggest you do so. It's well written and powerful, from the PoV of a victim of sexual abuse. She brings up some very valid points about the whole issue, and I respect her courage in speaking about it.

Probably my last main post on the subject, though we'll see... good job fandom - all told, you came together and fought for what you believed in and managed to remain fairly civil and intelligent. We showed LJ that we won't sit back and take this kind of shit, and I'm proud of everyone. Viva fandom! *sends hugs out*

ria_oaks: (Default)

http://news.livejournal.com/

Well, it's over... yeah, old news now, I know, but I was lazy today and didn't get around to posting about it until now... I'm of two minds about the apology, but at least they did apologize and are now restoring the innocent journals ([livejournal.com profile] pornish_pixies is back up, as are several more). Here's a copy-paste of a comment I made in [livejournal.com profile] tsukishirou's journal that sums up my thoughts on the apology, with a few minor edits:

I'm glad they're finally respdoning to the situation, though I'm not overly satisfied with their apology. I'm glad that they apologized to the communities that got accidentally deleted and are now taking action to restore those comms, but they didn't address a number of the problems fans have had. Such as, why did it take them so long to make a statement to the fans yet they made several statements to the press? And why did they not delete the pedophile communities that were reported to them monthes ago, claiming that they could not do anything about it? And what, exactly, do they mean when they say that communities about underage sex/incest must be clearly opposeod to those? Do they mean just a comment in the profile that they don't support those in real life, or do they mean that all the discussion/fic must be actively against those while still writing about them...? It's quite vague.

I'm glad they're admitting they messed up, anyway. Though their claims that they did what they did not purely because of outside pressure but because the comms violated their TOS is a bit hard to take considering their earlier actions (re: not deleting reported pedo comms in the past). What was it about WFI that made them take action this time? Was it purely economic concerns, since WFI went after the advertisers? Or were they covering their legal asses, in spite of the fact that I believe the law states that they would not be held accountable for content in journals on their website?

Anyway, I hope they can somehow report the real pedophiles from the real comms to the police... so maybe something real and productive could have come out of all of this. Though I imagine that they really just pushed them farther underground...

So yeah, it's basically over now, I suppose. We'll see how things go in the future... drama aside, though, it did bring fandom together and there was lots of good discussion and legitimate anger. And some fun creative stuff came out of it, too (there's even a fanmix now!). Hell, it even had a THEME SONG. How many wanks have ever had a theme song...? The whole Pirates thing was a bit silly, perhaps, but hell, lots of us are all hyped up on Pirates 3 right now and the song did fit so it was suiting that it was used a rallying cry. "Hoist the colours high", yo ho. :)

Anyway, some Firefly-themed icons to commemorate the event, inspired by the "We Aim to Misbehave" icon that I'm using (made by [livejournal.com profile] _stolendreams_. Because fitting though the Pirates thing was, I think some of the classic Firefly quotes/phrases also fits quite well. :) May make more if the mood strikes...

Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

Base made by [livejournal.com profile] originality. Please comment/credit if you take. Thanks! :)

One last thing - if anyone hasn't read this post, I suggest you do so. It's well written and powerful, from the PoV of a victim of sexual abuse. She brings up some very valid points about the whole issue, and I respect her courage in speaking about it.

Probably my last main post on the subject, though we'll see... good job fandom - all told, you came together and fought for what you believed in and managed to remain fairly civil and intelligent. We showed LJ that we won't sit back and take this kind of shit, and I'm proud of everyone. Viva fandom! *sends hugs out*

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